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	<title>Comments on: Mobilicio.us</title>
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		<title>By: Jason Coleman</title>
		<link>http://www.m-trends.org/2006/03/mobilicious.html/comment-page-1#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, thanks Rudy for making such a great (and ego-building) post about Mobilicio.us. And thanks for &quot;defending&quot; our cause while I was away on vacation.

We&#039;ve added a few questions to our FAQ (http://mobilicio.us/www/faq.php) to address concerns similar to those that Carlo has. (also shown below) 

Hopefully these can be of some help to people trying understand what sets us apart and what our goals are. Another thing that has come out of comments like Carlo&#039;s is that a way to access pages directly (not through Google Mobile) might be useful for users who have browsers that mobilize better than Google&#039;s service.

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Q: How is using mobilicio.us any different than just going to del.icio.us on your mobile phone&#039;s browser?
A: The del.icio.us website is not formatted well for viewing from a limited-display browser like those found on mobile phones. Currently, del.icio.us doesn&#039;t offer a mobile version of their site. In addition to presenting your del.icio.us bookmarks in a barebones format, mobilicio.us automatically sends all of your del.icio.us links through Google Mobile to mobilize the sites.

Q: Doesn&#039;t my browser already &quot;mobilize&quot; the pages I view?
A: It may. Some browsers, like Openwave and Opera Mini do adapt pages for better viewing on mobile devices. This would make Google Mobile&#039;s adaption redundant. However, you still have the issue that the del.icio.us homepage isn&#039;t mobile-friendly. Also, there are many mobile browsers out there that don&#039;t do a good job of mobilizing web sites (if at all).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, thanks Rudy for making such a great (and ego-building) post about Mobilicio.us. And thanks for &#8220;defending&#8221; our cause while I was away on vacation.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve added a few questions to our FAQ (<a href="http://mobilicio.us/www/faq.php" rel="nofollow">http://mobilicio.us/www/faq.php</a>) to address concerns similar to those that Carlo has. (also shown below) </p>
<p>Hopefully these can be of some help to people trying understand what sets us apart and what our goals are. Another thing that has come out of comments like Carlo&#8217;s is that a way to access pages directly (not through Google Mobile) might be useful for users who have browsers that mobilize better than Google&#8217;s service.</p>
<p>&#8212;<br />
Q: How is using mobilicio.us any different than just going to del.icio.us on your mobile phone&#8217;s browser?<br />
A: The del.icio.us website is not formatted well for viewing from a limited-display browser like those found on mobile phones. Currently, del.icio.us doesn&#8217;t offer a mobile version of their site. In addition to presenting your del.icio.us bookmarks in a barebones format, mobilicio.us automatically sends all of your del.icio.us links through Google Mobile to mobilize the sites.</p>
<p>Q: Doesn&#8217;t my browser already &#8220;mobilize&#8221; the pages I view?<br />
A: It may. Some browsers, like Openwave and Opera Mini do adapt pages for better viewing on mobile devices. This would make Google Mobile&#8217;s adaption redundant. However, you still have the issue that the del.icio.us homepage isn&#8217;t mobile-friendly. Also, there are many mobile browsers out there that don&#8217;t do a good job of mobilizing web sites (if at all).<br />
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		<title>By: Rudy De Waele</title>
		<link>http://www.m-trends.org/2006/03/mobilicious.html/comment-page-1#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>Rudy De Waele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 04:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carlo, 

The main difference is to distinguish &#039;mobile adapted&#039; web content from any &#039;normal&#039; website content.

Any del.icio.us link that has been tagged with ‘mtag’ will show up in the in Mobilicio.us by default.

You can do that of course with Opera mini over del.ici.us but Opera mini just compresses existing internet website pages (imgaes look ugly!) while specific designed mobile web pages are/will be of a different quality and added-value then just surfing the (mobile) web. I&#039;m a big fan of Opera Mini myself but, for example, the image compressing for brands and media companies willing to enter the mobile web space,  is just not good enough as of now, I&#039;m pretty sure they will go for the more appealing animated adapted content then  some ugly looking mini web-page to show they are also present in the mobile space.

The main difference with this approach over just running the Opera mini or Google Mobile over del.icio.us site is also that you get a much cleaner interface with all of the un-necesary information stripped out. 

A lot of different approaches will still be introduced before some standards will be accepted in the mobile search space but to me the biggest challenge for the mobile web the coming months/years is how to inform/teach people that a normal website is different then a mobile website. Mobilicio.us and Google Mobile are starting to index the mobile &#039;only&#039; websites. What&#039;s the point of finding what you&#039;re looking for with Google Mobile if the page you&#039;re clicking from there isn&#039;t adapted for mobile? 

As for now it still depends on which browser you use of course. Few people seem to realize that ANY website will need to adapt to web2.0 tech &amp; services (which will directly influence the way we&#039;ll navigate from the mobile or other devices)

A lot of new parameters to consider for (mobile) web designers and a lot of work out there the coming years, for sure...

It would be great to get other readers/developers opinion on this subject here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carlo, </p>
<p>The main difference is to distinguish &#8216;mobile adapted&#8217; web content from any &#8216;normal&#8217; website content.</p>
<p>Any del.icio.us link that has been tagged with ‘mtag’ will show up in the in Mobilicio.us by default.</p>
<p>You can do that of course with Opera mini over del.ici.us but Opera mini just compresses existing internet website pages (imgaes look ugly!) while specific designed mobile web pages are/will be of a different quality and added-value then just surfing the (mobile) web. I&#8217;m a big fan of Opera Mini myself but, for example, the image compressing for brands and media companies willing to enter the mobile web space,  is just not good enough as of now, I&#8217;m pretty sure they will go for the more appealing animated adapted content then  some ugly looking mini web-page to show they are also present in the mobile space.</p>
<p>The main difference with this approach over just running the Opera mini or Google Mobile over del.icio.us site is also that you get a much cleaner interface with all of the un-necesary information stripped out. </p>
<p>A lot of different approaches will still be introduced before some standards will be accepted in the mobile search space but to me the biggest challenge for the mobile web the coming months/years is how to inform/teach people that a normal website is different then a mobile website. Mobilicio.us and Google Mobile are starting to index the mobile &#8216;only&#8217; websites. What&#8217;s the point of finding what you&#8217;re looking for with Google Mobile if the page you&#8217;re clicking from there isn&#8217;t adapted for mobile? </p>
<p>As for now it still depends on which browser you use of course. Few people seem to realize that ANY website will need to adapt to web2.0 tech &amp; services (which will directly influence the way we&#8217;ll navigate from the mobile or other devices)</p>
<p>A lot of new parameters to consider for (mobile) web designers and a lot of work out there the coming years, for sure&#8230;</p>
<p>It would be great to get other readers/developers opinion on this subject here.</p>
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		<title>By: carlo</title>
		<link>http://www.m-trends.org/2006/03/mobilicious.html/comment-page-1#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>carlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 03:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still don&#039;t understand how this is any different than just going to del.icio.us on your mobile phone&#039;s browser?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still don&#8217;t understand how this is any different than just going to del.icio.us on your mobile phone&#8217;s browser?</p>
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